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  1. #16
    GayGravy-JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by strictlyb View Post
    The conspiracy theories are too elaborate to make sense. If the CIA wanted to plan the attack (which is entirely possible), they would have paid someone like Osama bin Laden to do it (after all, they have a long working relationship), not blow up the WTC themselves or fire cruise missiles at the Pentagon.

    The only sensible conspiracy evidence I've seen was put into Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore. He keeps pointing out the obvious facts: 1) the hijackers were SAUDI (why does everyone ignore that fact?) 2) The Bushes and the Saudi royals have a long and deep personal/business relationship. 3) Bin Laden was a CIA agent during the 1980s. 4) The neocons have NEVER called for "democracy and freedom" in Saudi Arabia. 5) Saudi has the world's biggest oil reserves. 6) The US was taken over by the oil industry in 2000...

    Now that's a PROPER conspiracy theory.
    Right, It had to be many criminal elements and intelligence services in a collaberated effort.
    People try to simplify the whole thing by narrowing it down to "but why would we blow up our own buildings?". Everyone got something.
    - Larry Silverstien (the guy who owned WWC) only took posession of the property 6 weeks before 9/11....hmmm.
    - Silverstien made a few billion $$$ off of the insurance deal.
    - Silverstien is buddies with Ariel Sharon.
    - Bush and friends get an unlimited carte blanche to wage war all over hell which enriches them and thier supporters in the Military Industrial Complex..Lockheed Martin, SAIC, (google that one for a full day of interesting info), etc. We dont even need to go into the vast oil and oil infrastructure related profits that Haliburton/KBR etc are pulling in. This goes on and on when you get into all the support industries that provide private security and mercenary services like Blackwater..
    -Constitution is basically eliminated through the canning of Habeus Corpus which most civilized societies have been guarenteed since the Magna Carta, no more Posse Comitatus (seperation of military and civilian police forces). Our right to privacy is pretty much out the windowat this point and i dont see it getting any better. No "terrorists" could have ever accomplished so much. THE POLICE STATE IS COMING. If you cant see this then you need to get off your ass and wake up.
    - Israel gets us to fight thier war by proxy. The plan in my opinion is to continually destabilize the entire Middle East so that Israel has unquestioned hegemony in the region. Moving from Iraq, Iran, Syria and eventually Saudi Arabia until the whole place is back in the stone age, unable to raise a first against Israel. Meanwhile the whole thing is funded by US taxpayers. This is basically a large scale operation of what Israel did to Lebanon last summer..keep your neighbors weak.
    -The banking cartel get's debt. Nothing builds debt like war. Look at what the Rothschild family did when napolean was cruising through europe. They would finance napaleon himself and also finance the countries as they were attacked as he marauded through the continent. For those that dont know...Here's how the Federal Reserve System works: The Federal Reserve is a private, for-profit institution that basically makes money every time we print a dollar. The shareholders of the Fed are private..yet they determine our public monetary policy. The President merely appoints the head of the Federal Reserve but at the end of the day he is accountable to the shareholders. When congress needs funds they ask the treasury. The Treasury in turn requests the money from the Federal Reserve. The Fed then makes this money available and gives it to the treasury. BUT THOSE FUNDS ARE NOW ACCUMULATING INTEREST THAT MUST BE PAID BACK TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE. Again, the Fed is a private institution..look in your phone book..the Fed is in the business pages..not the Gov pages. So, our country is being charged billions per day just in interest to the federal reserve. The more money we request to wage war the more these private bankers make. JP Morrgan, Rothschilds and some other guys cooked up this scheme back in 1912 and passed it through congress on the eve of xmas vacation. We havent had the power to print our own currency ever since.

    Anyway, i have to get back to work. Lots are profiting from 9/11 in ways that are too huge for us to even wrap our heads around.. cant narrow it down to a simple good guy/bad guy formula.


  2. #17
    GayGravy-JJ
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    oops..double post..deleted


  3. #18
    padabum
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    it´s not even that important if 09/11 was a conspiracy. I personally dont beleive anything anymore thats put on TV from the american prapaganda authorities. Its much more important to see what the 09/11 was used for:

    They stole your civil rights, they made an Orson Wells country out of you, they are agressors in war, they made guantanano they are ruining the image of the US worldwide.

    I am just amazed that the american people do not stop that at all. They arent out on the street to protect their rights... Its always nice, when George W. adresses his speaches to the nation "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth! We bring the world freedom!" Bullshit! Hitler said the same thing about germany years Ago "An unserem Wesen soll die Welt genesen!" You can see where it took him. And you can see where this snobistic attitude gets the US government... Afghanistan: Isnt running too well! Iraq: Oh my god, what a disaster!

    Even your "democracy" isnt really democratic. when you go voting... you dont elect the president... NO you elect an election man thats supposed to vote on your behalf. Ever wondered why you just have 2 political parties in the US? Nope? Dream on guys


  4. #19
    GayGravy-JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by padabum View Post
    it´s not even that important if 09/11 was a conspiracy. I personally dont beleive anything anymore thats put on TV from the american prapaganda authorities. Its much more important to see what the 09/11 was used for:

    They stole your civil rights, they made an Orson Wells country out of you, they are agressors in war, they made guantanano they are ruining the image of the US worldwide.

    I am just amazed that the american people do not stop that at all. They arent out on the street to protect their rights... Its always nice, when George W. adresses his speaches to the nation "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth! We bring the world freedom!" Bullshit! Hitler said the same thing about germany years Ago "An unserem Wesen soll die Welt genesen!" You can see where it took him. And you can see where this snobistic attitude gets the US government... Afghanistan: Isnt running too well! Iraq: Oh my god, what a disaster!

    Even your "democracy" isnt really democratic. when you go voting... you dont elect the president... NO you elect an election man thats supposed to vote on your behalf. Ever wondered why you just have 2 political parties in the US? Nope? Dream on guys
    I think you meant Orwell when you said Orsen Wells...
    But you're right about alot..There isnt anything that appears in mainstream media that dosent have some purpose in the overall manipulation. Why would they waste there time..


  5. #20
    KMBucks
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    I know a political opinion or a debate on a webmaster board can get you hated more than Bush himself but...

    ...you guys should register and VOTE next time, not just complaining about the results!

    By not voting, you're voting for the winner.


  6. #21
    padabum
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    sorry yes...orwell...ooooops

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info

    have fun


  7. #22
    padabum
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    Quote Originally Posted by GayGravy-JJ View Post
    I think you meant Orwell when you said Orsen Wells...
    But you're right about alot..There isnt anything that appears in mainstream media that dosent have some purpose in the overall manipulation. Why would they waste there time..
    well its all for the money.... and control


  8. #23
    GayGravy-JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMBucks View Post
    I know a political opinion or a debate on a webmaster board can get you hated more than Bush himself but...

    ...you guys should register and VOTE next time, not just complaining about the results!

    By not voting, you're voting for the winner.
    All votes go to the same group sadly. All get thier marching orders from AIPAC and the folks that run the multi-national corps. The only upcoming candidate that isnt accepting corporate backing is Ron Paul..libertarian who is actually a republican now..surprisingly. He wont get far though without sucking at the tit of the blood-money monster...sad but true.


  9. #24
    padabum
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    @GayGravy-JJ: you are absolutely right. voting for antother clone president wont do it. just today a report on tv showed guantanamo again. i dont fucking beleive, that nearly no one is protesting against this unhuman prison where people are kept without trial, tortured, and really bad things are being done to these people.

    GUANTANAMO will be the future picture the world will have of the united states. its just all so discusting and pityfull. and the worst thing is, it will drive even more moslems into radicalism and to hate the western countries.

    but mr. rumsfeld and all those other thugs are sitting in their airconditioned apartments with their chauffeur limousines and dont even give a shit. rumsfeld made millions through his company h. burton with the war.

    its really all so sad when you start digging into this just a bit beyond the surface....


  10. #25
    Xstr8guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by padabum View Post
    rumsfeld made millions through his company h. burton with the war.

    its really all so sad when you start digging into this just a bit beyond the surface....
    Um... I would suggest digging in a different location. Whatever you are digging up is completely false information.


  11. #26
    Richard Craver
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    well, well, well.

    I know that I won't be using gaygravy anytime soon, that's for sure.

    :flogging:

    I'm going to hijack this threat to talk about the REAL conspiracy

    Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?

    We’ve all heard the “official conspiracy theory” of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And we’ve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

    Like many Americans, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

    Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

    Below is a summary of my book, Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack, which presents compelling evidence that we all may be the victims of a fraud of immense proportions.

    Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack

    1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

    2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

    3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

    4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?

    5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

    6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

    7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

    8)How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?


  12. #27
    GayGravy-JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Craver View Post
    well, well, well.

    I know that I won't be using gaygravy anytime soon, that's for sure.

    :flogging:

    I'm going to hijack this threat to talk about the REAL conspiracy

    Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?

    We’ve all heard the “official conspiracy theory” of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And we’ve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

    Like many Americans, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

    Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

    Below is a summary of my book, Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack, which presents compelling evidence that we all may be the victims of a fraud of immense proportions.

    Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack

    1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

    2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

    3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

    4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?

    5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

    6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

    7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

    8)How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?
    Haha..i think we'll do just fine without ya.


  13. #28
    padabum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xstr8guy View Post
    Um... I would suggest digging in a different location. Whatever you are digging up is completely false information.
    yeah sure... dream on baby


  14. #29
    Xstr8guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by padabum View Post
    yeah sure... dream on baby
    I was merely pointing out the fact that the information in you post is untrue.

    Quote Originally Posted by padabum View Post
    rumsfeld made millions through his company h. burton with the war.
    You are mistaken if you think Halliburton was ever "his company". Rumsfeld was never an employee of Halliburton.


  15. #30
    padabum
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    sorry..you are half right... dick chaney is the former head of Halliburton.

    i never said that rumsfeld is head or owns... but according to my information he does hold shares.


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