The "we must protect the children" line is an old right wing conservative christian standby for a free pass to move their agenda forward.
I disagree with this line. I don't think it's always used as some end all be all.
Protecting children is a parents responsibility, it always has been, it always will be. Wether it's surfing porn on the home computer, chatting to strangers on the home computer, walking the streets at night, etc. It's a parents responsibility.
I agree here, however I think reasonable security is needed from a webmaster. If my son when he's older looks at porn in my home that IS my issue, most parents use the excuse of 'They are better with computers then me." well learn is what i say.
For home use I plan on running X Windows ect ect
However there are ALOT of webmasters that don't give a shit
Ya know once (more then once ) in 1998 someone got the bright idea to make their adult website pop up under searches like Disney ect ect ect
we're paying for it now.
This is a very basic concept yet so many are getting brainwashed into believing that everything must be censored in the name of a childs innocence ~ very smart manipulation to forward the conservative christian agenda. They're always coming up with some new angle to shape society the way they see fit.
Again it's almost as if your attacking Christian's or something.
It's both it starts in the home but ends with us.
I disagree with this line. I don't think it's always used as some end all be all.
I agree. I don't think it's always used as an end all and be all, but it is an old standby. I remember when it was used against homosexuals because we were "recruiting young boys and girls to be Gay"
Protecting children is a parents responsibility, it always has been, it always will be. Wether it's surfing porn on the home computer, chatting to strangers on the home computer, walking the streets at night, etc. It's a parents responsibility.
I agree here, however I think reasonable security is needed from a webmaster.
I agree. It's funny though, goto a library and where is the security keeping children from seeing naked bodies in books, pornographic texts, sex ed books, etc.?
Again it's almost as if your attacking Christian's or something. It's both it starts in the home but ends with us.
Stating facts about the conservative christian agenda isn't attacking them. However we are in the adult industry, and we are homosexuals, we are under attack both in our freedom of speech and civil rights, as we all know. I'm not one of the hate all christians or hate all republican types.
I have a hard time being convinced that the internet should be deemed a child safe zone or that a site owner is responsible for what a parent gives their child access to. If a parent let's their child surf the internet alone, or goto the library alone, they can expect that something they don't approve of might happen right?
I agree. I don't think it's always used as an end all and be all, but it is an old standby. I remember when it was used against homosexuals because we were "recruiting young boys and girls to be Gay"
I guess my opinion would be diffrent if i was older.
Truth be told I find that more Gay men dislike the fact I have a nasty habit of having sex with women from time to time.
I agree. It's funny though, goto a library and where is the security keeping children from seeing naked bodies in books, pornographic texts, sex ed books, etc.?
True.
Stating facts about the conservative christian agenda isn't attacking them. However we are in the adult industry, and we are homosexuals, we are under attack both in our freedom of speech and civil rights, as we all know. I'm not one of the hate all christians or hate all republican types.
I guess for me I've always felt that my speech and civil rights were under attack. So yeah I see that. I want things even I guess. First i was wrong beacuse I liked men, then I was wrong beacause I liked (a) women.
I think we as a gay comunity are actually segrigating straight people.
I have a hard time being convinced that the internet should be deemed a child safe zone or that a site owner is responsible for what a parent gives their child access to. If a parent let's their child surf the internet alone, or goto the library alone, they can expect that something they don't approve of might happen right?
TRUE!
But as a gesture of good faith we should try to come up with some method, beacuse it's better then none, and then no one can't say that we didn't try.
i'm a webmaster who raised a son and helped raise a daughter. i feel strongly that it is a parent's responsibility to take care of their kids, and i felt that way many years before i was a webmaster.
no one can take care of my kids the way i want them cared for but me becauase no one has the same beliefs and desires for them that i do. i watched every cartoon before i let my son watch it, and that includes video games, too. i worked with him on his schoolwork. and in no way would i trust a body of people like any government to do what i think is right for him.
I think no matter which way you slice this argument, you cant get away from the fact that parents should take more responsibility for what their kids are doing on the internet. I have two kids, mostly grown up now but when they were little, they had limited time on the computer and the monitor was always facing a main walkway in the house as well as kept in the family area. If the y were on a site they shouldnt have been, we pretty much knew about it.
I dont come from a computer background as such from growing up. However, even back then, I could get my hands on whatever porn I wanted, when ever I wanted it, and you now what? I still turned out ok. Im not a perv, psycho or anything of that nature because I looked at porn at an early age. in this country a few years ago, the government tried to make it law that every household had to have a filtering software on their family computers to make this country more 'surfer friendly' for our kids. It didnt become law.
Parents have a huge responsibility for their kids safety even when surfing the web and should stop blaming everybody else because their kids get sucked in by chat room phoneys. Its the world we live in and banning free sites (eventhough i really dont think they are a good thing) to take responsibility away from the parents, isnt the way to go. Why dont we ban everything that could be 'detrimental' to or kids safety? Needless to say there are some types of sites that should be banned, but thats a totally different argument.:humble:
Come on parents, grow up and stop bitching about stuff you cant really control and concentrate on what you can control, namely,what your kids are up to on the internet.
Thats my rant for the day cause its nearly over here...:bananacock:
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my opinions
Leave porn alone
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Close myspace, youtube, social networking all together
And chat room sites!
Kids will then be safe online![]()
Here's the issue as I see it. The world at large, will come up with any excuse to put down what er do, we all agree there I would guess.
Yes it is a parents issue however everyone is going to look to us to do something about it.
so we should. out of the kindness of our hearts
okay fine - so we all agree to a point that its the parents job - so lets not worry about crack dealers because parents should watch their kids so that they dont get into drugs.
same as on the net - be nice if the parents can watch every moment, but as a parent myself and to those that are, we know if the kids want to get at the stuff they will.
is there NO responsibility to the adult industry? are we content with free content being served up? those that deal in traffic etc. are making a killing - those with paysites are suffering with the attitudes, "why pay for it when I can get it for free".
government and parents want more paysites or control over porn so that underage viewers will have a more difficult time finding it, and if they are faced with more paysites - it will decrease the numbers viewing porn.
I find it surprising that those that have free sites or have free content on the web never want to admit that kids are looking at it for fear that once that realization hits us - we may have to admit we are making it easier for kids to view porn.
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