What AVS Systems Work...

[Dzinerbear]

But I doubt that Seb is looking to make money selling AVS memberships. As a paysite operator, I'm quite sure his looking at AVS simply as traffic generation for his program.

Yes, I realize this. People steal from the cookie jar, then complain that they got their hand whacked. I was going to get into a long and drawn out piece about this, but I can't be bothered. It's the same old thing that webmasters have been trying to pull since 1999.

Michael

[Xstr8guy]

Yes, I realize this. People steal from the cookie jar, then complain that they got their hand whacked. I was going to get into a long and drawn out piece about this, but I can't be bothered. It's the same old thing that webmasters have been trying to pull since 1999.

Michael

Oh I agree with you. But I also understand where people like Seb are coming from too. And done right, AVS galleries can provide value to the AVS itself and still be an opportunity to upsell. But it is a VERY thin line and even webmasters with the best intentions can and do cross it sometimes.

For example, let's say a paysite owner makes AVS galleries for UGAS and/or Mancheck and he uses exclusive content shot for his site(s) that is not available anywhere else except on his paysite(s). You don't think that adds value to the AVS system as well as being a good upsell opportunity for his paysite(s)?

[abostonboy]

For example, let's say a paysite owner makes AVS galleries for UGAS and/or Mancheck and he uses exclusive content shot for his site(s) that is not available anywhere else except on his paysite(s). You don't think that adds value to the AVS system as well as being a good upsell opportunity for his paysite(s)?

No. The goal of an AVS program is to keep members in their member's area. It's good for the surfer and the paysite owner, but not the AVS (unless the paysite owner is making sales for the AVS).

[Xstr8guy]

No. The goal of an AVS program is to keep members in their member's area. It's good for the surfer and the paysite owner, but not the AVS (unless the paysite owner is making sales for the AVS).

I respectfully disagree.

An AVS program becomes worthless without a fresh influx of content. It's my opinion that any affiliate that can bring something new to the program has immense value. Otherwise all you get is another gallery with the same old tired content added to the thousand other galleries with the same old tired content which means a slow painful death for the AVS program.

[abostonboy]

I respectfully disagree.

An AVS program becomes worthless without a fresh influx of content.

It also becomes worthless without a fresh influx of sales. There needs to be a balance between the sales you make and the amount of sites you submit.

[Xstr8guy]

It also becomes worthless without a fresh influx of sales. There needs to be a balance between the sales you make and the amount of sites you submit.

I think we could go 'round & 'round all night about this, .

You don't think fresh content by itself brings new sales?! I'd have to disagree yet again.

Yes, I get the point you are trying to make. AVS affiliates should bring their own traffic to the mix and not just leach off of new gallery listings. But c'mon, be realistic... even if an affiliate didn't bring one click to an AVS but he had loads of fresh content to share, I still say that adds value.

[abostonboy]

You don't think fresh content by itself brings new sales?! I'd have to disagree yet again.

I do. Unless it's Mike18 content. :boring: