abostonboy, couldn't agree with you more!

Damian_Maxcash, my personal experience with designers who get excited by the content is that they're too close and too personal and make designs that don't make money. the gay designers i worked with thought it was fun to camp things up, and maybe it was fun for them. the surfers apparently didn't want camp judging by their lack of signups. i won't tell you about the gay designer who simply made the world's ugliest pages.

btw, all the maxcash gay sites i've seen have the exact same content inside, which is a pretty good collection of DVDs - yet maxcash continues to make them look like old school paysites. why not go this route if what the sites have to offer is dvd content? the good thing about this kind of tour is it lets the content speak for itself.

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