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    Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post

    there's a great lack of focus on treatment in this country, and seems like most perceive prison as revenge - and i'm not just talking about in the case of child molesters.

    I agree 100%. However, sexual predators are the most difficult to rehabilitate, thus making funds spent on treatment unlikely to produce the desired results. Society is best protected by preventing them from victimizing others, and Dawgy has been proven to be a sexual predator.
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    so does that mean a 9 year old who molests his 5 year old brother should be treated as a criminal? there are actually many such cases.

    i'm not saying these people should be rehabilitated, but perhaps they can be taught not to act out. i'd still keep them away from kids, but putting them in general population when it's pretty well known that child molesters are treated so badly there seems to me to be revenge rather than anything else.

    it's odd to me how people who say they don't believe in torture have no problem throwing a molester into a situation where he will be beaten, threatened raped and otherwise harmed on a daily basis for many years. how is that not torture? and while i don't condone molestation in any way, i'm sure that the people who commit torture on people in situations we say we deplore also don't condone their activities. where's the line here?

    Quote Originally Posted by chadknowslaw View Post
    We stop treating someone like a victim and start treating them like a criminal when they victimize others.

    Past abuse does not give someone a free pass to abuse others. I had limited personal contact with dawgy but my impression was that he was no victim. He struck me as a predator. My gut was right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzinerbear View Post
    You have no idea how many kids Dawgy successfully had sex with over his years as a free man.
    I think if someone drives 2,000 miles to be with a teen, then it is one possibility that they have expirence in doing it closer to home. So I'm with you there.

    These speculated crimes are however a moot point since he wasn't on trial for any of them. If you get pulled over for speeding do you get one ticket, or a bunch of tickets for all the times they think you got away with it?

    My post was just asking about the 17 years he got for having photos on his computer that he wasn't charged with creating or selling, "just" possessing. The link Chad posted says nothing about other charges.

    The reason why the sentance surprises me is that I was looking at my state's online sex offender database and seeing guys who molested kids under 10 that spent less than half the time in prison that D*wgy got for having photos. That's really all I am questioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post
    so does that mean a 9 year old who molests his 5 year old brother should be treated as a criminal? there are actually many such cases.

    Yes there are and I have personally been the prosecutor. How I handled the case was entirely different than with an adult predator. We are not talking about 9 year olds here.

    This was a 32 year old man who has been an adult long enough to know what he is doing, to be responsible for his own actions, and with his participation in the legal adult industry he damn well knew that what he was doing was highly illegal and considered despicable even by the most hardened legitimate pornographer. His sentence had to satisfy several prongs, including (1) protect society from a predator (2) deterring the predator from doing it again and (3) deterring others who may consider violating the law from breaking the same law.

    I believe the sentence is fair considering the many factors at play.

    The conditions in prison are not good. However, the possibility that the predator may become the victim of some future crime (being assaulted in prison) also does not give him a free pass. The predator should be locked away so he cannot harm other victims. The predator should also be protected from assault by other inmates while in custody and someone that assaults him should also be punished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post
    so does that mean a 9 year old who molests his 5 year old brother should be treated as a criminal? there are actually many such cases.

    i'm not saying these people should be rehabilitated, but perhaps they can be taught not to act out. i'd still keep them away from kids, but putting them in general population when it's pretty well known that child molesters are treated so badly there seems to me to be revenge rather than anything else.

    it's odd to me how people who say they don't believe in torture have no problem throwing a molester into a situation where he will be beaten, threatened raped and otherwise harmed on a daily basis for many years. how is that not torture? and while i don't condone molestation in any way, i'm sure that the people who commit torture on people in situations we say we deplore also don't condone their activities. where's the line here?
    basschick I am with you on this one! I feel that we are quick to punish a criminal and I don't feel that we spend enough time on rehabilitation and as a result these people are treated like animals or worse in our jails and it is tolerated and then when they have served their time if they survive they are released back into the population, without any rehabilitation having taken place. To me this is hardly a civilized way of addressing these issues.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post

    My post was just asking about the 17 years he got for having photos on his computer that he wasn't charged with creating or selling, "just" possessing. The link Chad posted says nothing about other charges.

    The reason why the sentance surprises me is that I was looking at my state's online sex offender database and seeing guys who molested kids under 10 that spent less than half the time in prison that D*wgy got for having photos. That's really all I am questioning.

    There is a difference in state and federal law, which usually accounts for different sentences. Also, that "sex offender" designation is attached to a wide range of crimes, so in order to compare sentences it is important to look at the elements of the crime committed. The 23 year old high music teacher that gropes the covered breast of his 15 year old student may be labeled a direct contact sex offender in the same group as the 50 year old priest that anally penetrated an 8 year old altar boy. Sometimes they carry the same label but with very different underlying crimes.

    Had he been charged in Arizona the sentence is 10 years per image, no probation, all terms to be served consecutively. This scheme is ludicrous because a handful of images becomes a life sentence and to me fundamentally unfair. A few years for actually molesting a child seems too light and dawgys seems about right to me.
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