so does that mean a 9 year old who molests his 5 year old brother should be treated as a criminal? there are actually many such cases.

i'm not saying these people should be rehabilitated, but perhaps they can be taught not to act out. i'd still keep them away from kids, but putting them in general population when it's pretty well known that child molesters are treated so badly there seems to me to be revenge rather than anything else.

it's odd to me how people who say they don't believe in torture have no problem throwing a molester into a situation where he will be beaten, threatened raped and otherwise harmed on a daily basis for many years. how is that not torture? and while i don't condone molestation in any way, i'm sure that the people who commit torture on people in situations we say we deplore also don't condone their activities. where's the line here?

Quote Originally Posted by chadknowslaw View Post
We stop treating someone like a victim and start treating them like a criminal when they victimize others.

Past abuse does not give someone a free pass to abuse others. I had limited personal contact with dawgy but my impression was that he was no victim. He struck me as a predator. My gut was right.