I understand that, I guess I don't see it different then going on GFY buy and sell and buying some some sites on there for sale. I have done it before and done it again. I don't think he was talking about shopping them in the back of us weekly or whatever.Originally Posted by abostonboy
I do understand what you are saying though, but I still think there is a market for it.
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There is a market. Though not for me.
Concerning gfy, most sites that get sold on there have some income or at least traffic. Hell, I have bought sites from there, but not for the design, but I like the Google history and felt I could do something with the traffic.
And the sites that get sold on there for the most part are at a real cheap price.
Here - http://search.ebay.com/search/search...te+&category0=
Just check completed listings...
Lloyd - Stunner Media - ICQ: 216150073
"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. If you go down just one corridor of thought you never get to see what’s in the rooms leading off it." - Trevor Baylis
I bought a site on there like 4-6 weeks ago, just for the domain, I ditched the whole design (i bought the site for 20 bucks), and just because of the domain, and my google placement, it has made me $500 since I bought it. I keep an eye on things over there, there are some GOOD deals!
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That's not true. I took your word regarding his site design and took a look at the URL's you provided and this is the result of his magnificent work for a site re-design for Squirtit.com
After I paid 1/2 up front IdolNights (Craig) disappeared for weeks and Mr. McNasty was far from obtainable.
Times are difficult and extra money is hard to come by. I don't appreciate getting shafted and ignored.
My ICQ is 265912752 if anyone wants more information. I've been threatened via ICQ by IdolNights aka SappyHucks aka craig, a moderator on this forum, on ICQ he said:
SappyHucks (3:29 AM):
you DID just show me something
It's not great - not even that good
And I would ask for mods and changes to it myself
SappyHucks (3:30 AM):
This is over - I'll have lee post the IP info and we can move on.
Perhaps I'll be forced to move to a new forum now.
That's my point! You wanted the domain and Google placement. That is the REAL value, not the design. The design limits you to that design.
Lloyd - Stunner Media - ICQ: 216150073
"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. If you go down just one corridor of thought you never get to see what’s in the rooms leading off it." - Trevor Baylis
WOW, I am gonna be a BILLIONAIRE from all of the websites I just bought! :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
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Well that's the point of the turnkey sites being a scam :bananacock:
I still don't get where your work with Dru, has anything to do with calling Craig a scammer. Just because you met the guy through Craig doesn't mean that Craig is a scammer. You even just posted the design that the guy gave you, so he doesn't look like a scammer either.
You have worked with Craig for years, and I have worked with Craig for over a year know, we both know that Craig is not a scammer.
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99% of the people that buy these turnkey sites never make a dime. In fact most lose even more when they start buying traffic for them. That's the problem. The "newbies" that buy these have no idea how to get traffic to them.
Seriously, lets say I design an asian site on a domain and sell it to someone. Chances are that person is a newbie (otherwise he would have a designer design one for him). He wont make a dime off the thing.
So many people have lost money off expansive turnkey sites that it isn't funny,
Newbies tend to buy them and they are the ones that have absolutely no idea what to do with them after they buy them.
Lloyd - Stunner Media - ICQ: 216150073
"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. If you go down just one corridor of thought you never get to see what’s in the rooms leading off it." - Trevor Baylis
I can understand where you are coming from here, that it would be more likely to be bought by a newbie, there for it would be more likely that they wouldn't make any money.
It would probably be a better business model to get the site working, and get some links and traffic flowing through it and then sell it. Not only would it be worth more money, but it would cost more, so a more experienced person would buy it.
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lloyd - my question was mainly because I'm seeing more and more designer sites add pre-built, buy and go templates.
It made me think of turnkeys and wanted to see if people would pick up the pre-built if they were attached to domains. Or, if it was just better to have a storage of pre-bult designs where people can edit the text as they need, chance the css and page color if they want the design but need it blue, not green.
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Right on. Why sell a site to someone that will probably never make a dime off it? Develop it and sell it for more.
Looking at some of the turnkey sites on Ebay. I like videogames, but I also know the market very well as I have an Ebay business selling them. I can tell you right off the bat that the turnkey video games sites will never make 99% of those that buy them one single penny. In fact most will lose even more $$$ trying to make money off them.
Turnkey sites were the rage like 5 years ago in this biz. It died for a reason. No one was making money.
Ask some of these guys how much they made -
http://www.gaysites4sale.com/index.html
Lloyd - Stunner Media - ICQ: 216150073
"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. If you go down just one corridor of thought you never get to see what’s in the rooms leading off it." - Trevor Baylis
I haven't worked with Craig for years.
Oddly enough, after I paid 1/2 upfront for the design, Craig disappeared off ICQ for weeks, though you said you were able to see him on ICQ, and I wasn't, while the "design" guy Dru was flaky and rude, and ultimately took my money with no usable results.
Honestly I don't care. I'm just sharing the experience. I'm sure Craig, Dru, etc. are all good people and it was just a deal gone bad. No drama. Just my personal experience. If others get scammed or have a bad experience they can fall back on this thread. KEYWORDS: HappySucks , SappyHucks, Dru, turnkey, design, scam
Craig does NOT get on ICQ every day, and I did not tell you that he did. Hell, I talk to Craig 99.999999% of the time on AIM, we play games online together occasionally, I also talk to him over text messaging. You know he isn't a scammer, and posting that is false, and you know it, why not just retract your statement?
You posted a link to the design, so you received it, how exactly were you scammed, or am I missing something?
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so you are looking to do like monster templates?
The domain name and design are only a small part of a site. There has to be content or some way to make money. When you add content, the costs really rise. Or if its a doorway site to a revenue source (dating etc) then one has to rely on that for income.
The hard part that I see is most that buy these don't have the experience in marketing to make any money.
Lloyd - Stunner Media - ICQ: 216150073
"The key to success is to risk thinking unconventional thoughts. Convention is the enemy of progress. If you go down just one corridor of thought you never get to see what’s in the rooms leading off it." - Trevor Baylis
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