How much do you make per day? (Gross)

**abostonboy** · 03-15-2008, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

Those that say they earn anywhere from 400. up a day are full of it. That is hundreds of new user sign ups and one person would not be able to handle that. As with most affiliate programs that are offered on your site the average is about 25.00 which in turn is about 15,000 users a year. That is 15,000 per 1000. per day. I just don't think so as most here are not able to handle that on their own. Now if your a large site with a few people working for you I can see it and then 400. to 1000. per day is just making it. I guess for anyone with 10 workers and servers they would need to make about 5000.00 per day in sales. I guess that is about less than 1% or 1% of the adult sites out there. Just wish my site http://badboysfilms.com did that

Making $400 a day is EASY as an affiliate. 10 sales to a $35 PPS and you have $350.

We have one site with three employees. If we ever had a day where we only made $400 we would call it quits. I have some affiliates making $200 - $400 a day just marketing our one site.

**abostonboy** · 03-15-2008, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by chubbs

Why is rude to ask in an anonymous poll on a board? Not like you have to answer. I started the same poll on 3 other boards, and got maybe 5 people that did not like the poll, and 100+ that voted. Lots of people found it interesting and even inspiring.

--Chubbs

Chubbs,

It's not that i feel it's rude. However, I will say that I lied. I do feel it being a little strange to allow Lee to see how each voted and not everyone else. So, I THINK I said $250-$500. Though that's not what I make. It just seemed like what most would choose. But, I was wrong.

**abostonboy** · 03-15-2008, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

Those that say they earn anywhere from 400. up a day are full of it. That is hundreds of new user sign ups and one person would not be able to handle that. As with most affiliate programs that are offered on your site the average is about 25.00 which in turn is about 15,000 users a year. That is 15,000 per 1000. per day. I just don't think so as most here are not able to handle that on their own. Now if your a large site with a few people working for you I can see it and then 400. to 1000. per day is just making it. I guess for anyone with 10 workers and servers they would need to make about 5000.00 per day in sales. I guess that is about less than 1% or 1% of the adult sites out there. Just wish my site http://badboysfilms.com did that

I am not following your logic at all. For a paysite to make $400 a day, they could do it via the following:

$30 a month. 14 sales a day. That's $420. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 12,600 a month.

Take a 40% retention rate. Assume month two they do 14 sales a day. That's 20,160 for the month. or $672 a day.

See how it grows with the same sales level?

**pam** · 03-15-2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

Those that say they earn anywhere from 400. up a day are full of it. That is hundreds of new user sign ups and one person would not be able to handle that. As with most affiliate programs that are offered on your site the average is about 25.00 which in turn is about 15,000 users a year. That is 15,000 per 1000. per day. I just don't think so as most here are not able to handle that on their own. Now if your a large site with a few people working for you I can see it and then 400. to 1000. per day is just making it. I guess for anyone with 10 workers and servers they would need to make about 5000.00 per day in sales. I guess that is about less than 1% or 1% of the adult sites out there. Just wish my site http://badboysfilms.com did that

Say what?

If I only made $400 a day I'd quit. IF you know what you are doing, you can create sites and they run themselves and make money every single day.

I'm lost with your "15,000 users a year" comment. I have 30-50k surfers who visit one of my sites every single day. I have many, MANY other sites doing 5-10k hits a day, or surfers visiting every day. Are you referring to surfers visiting or signing up?

If you're not aware, one of the larger straight sponsors has a website that his 30,000 members in one month. MEMBERS. People who paid. THIRTY THOUSAND OF THEM IN ONE MONTH.

I know one man who is doing 100 sales a day from galleries. Depending on whether he does rev share or PPS, that's $1,500 to $4,000 PER DAY. I know another guy who solely does blogs and makes $1,000 a day and that's almost all from SEO.

Programs making $5,000 per day in sales are small fish. There are many sponsors doing 100-1000 sales per day and paying out $30 to each affiliate. If you add up memberships, upsells and cross sales, you're looking at a lotta money there.

I have a feeling you're either very new (though reading down further I see you are not) or just not very experienced with webmaster terms ("users?"), affiliate signups, or larger programs.

Now, granted, I work mostly in the str8 market in one niche, though I do run some gay sites because someone else chose to retire from the biz (insert nasty glare here) and I'll be selling some of those sites since I have no time to work on them. But I do see what my gay sales do and it took me a while to find the right sponsor in the right niches. And, it took a while to investigate and learn about the niche to market it properly.

I'm going to be doing a new site promoting Jasun's stuff and hope to be one of those affiliates bringing in $1,000 a week.

**badboysfilms** · 03-15-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by abostonboy

I am not following your logic at all. For a paysite to make $400 a day, they could do it via the following:

$30 a month. 14 sales a day. That's $420. Assuming a 30 day month, that's 12,600 a month.

Take a 40% retention rate. Assume month two they do 14 sales a day. That's 20,160 for the month. or $672 a day.

See how it grows with the same sales level?

I am also talking about the amount of support that it would take to handle that amount of customers. Right now just selling some other things on the net and with the small about of customers I get 3 to 4 calls a week but handling maybe 300 plus a month I would say that it would be very hard to do as I stated without a staff. Most everyone on this site is a part timer in this area and just don't see these kind of sales for one person. Any way I building my way up and soon will have ten tgp sites and counting, plus blogs and search engines all working to get me sales. I spend 12 hours a day on the computer 7 days a week and still not making a whole lot. So I guess I still have not hit that niche or internet gold!!!!

**abostonboy** · 03-15-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

I am also talking about the amount of support that it would take to handle that amount of customers.

Not as much as you would think. MANY companies I believe are way too heavy on employees. We could easily double our sales and not hire another employee or add to our two server clusters. Companies need a plan for managed growth.

One could run a paysite with 10k members and five employees. One could also run the same site and 10k members and have 10 employees. It's all about how you set up the company and how automated you are.

As an example, I was a big seller on ebay and the support was driving me crazy. We invested $1,000 in a selling manager system and automated 80% of the customer support issues. Inventory got tracked, sales reports, listings got scheduled automatically, re listed, feed back left, all on auto pilot. An upfront investment in infrastructure will many times pay for itself 100 times over.

**badboysfilms** · 03-16-2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by abostonboy

Not as much as you would think. MANY companies I believe are way too heavy on employees. We could easily double our sales and not hire another employee or add to our two server clusters. Companies need a plan for managed growth.

One could run a paysite with 10k members and five employees. One could also run the same site and 10k members and have 10 employees. It's all about how you set up the company and how automated you are.

As an example, I was a big seller on ebay and the support was driving me crazy. We invested $1,000 in a selling manager system and automated 80% of the customer support issues. Inventory got tracked, sales reports, listings got scheduled automatically, re listed, feed back left, all on auto pilot. An upfront investment in infrastructure will many times pay for itself 100 times over.

I still sell on eBay, I make most of my money there. 1 neg only this year started in 2004. Well this is alittle off the subject sorry

**abostonboy** · 03-16-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

I still sell on eBay, I make most of my money there. 1 neg only this year started in 2004. Well this is alittle off the subject sorry

A little off subject, but if you invest in http://www.channeladvisor.com/ you will see how much less customer service you will need.

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mrmax · 05-03-2008, 11:13 PM

Who are all these people making over $1,000 a day?

Ive been working online for like 6 years and I never met anyone making money like that. I met one girl making over $5k a month, but that was it

**badboysfilms** · 05-04-2008, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by mrmax

Who are all these people making over $1,000 a day?

Ive been working online for like 6 years and I never met anyone making money like that. I met one girl making over $5k a month, but that was it

Well it seems there are alot of bullshit artist but then it is possible for some maybe less than 1% of 1% that may do this but you are talking in the 100,000's of of users a day to one site. I have been on the net starting in 93, I have had adult sites as far back as 91 on a bbs, I have not, but then I am sure there are ways if you have the bucks to start it. Money starts and bullshit can't. Figure that one out!! So I guess you can say I don't have the money to make it fast but it is crawling in slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch.... Who's on first I don't know whats on first

**abostonboy** · 05-05-2008, 07:49 PM

Dear God! I am by no means a BIG player as an affiliate of programs. But, just yesterday one of my blogs made 7 sales to a PPS program that pays $35 a signup. That's over $200. As an affiliate I have about 20 blogs nows. Each one makes at least one sale a day to a PPS program. $1,000 a day is easy in this business. Pulling 20-30 sales a day to a PPS program is easy as hell with a good traffic network.

It's a lot harder with one centralized site. But with 1,000s of free sites, a good blog network, tgps, tgp galleries, and a shitload of AEN sites it's not hard at all.

There is one AEN that if you submit 8 sites a day and do it right, you can expect 3-4 sales a day. Easily. And that builds up over time after you get a network going.

If one knows Yahoo and Google enough, you can pull some amazing numbers through adsense as well.

As affiliate manager for BlakeMason, I can hinestly say we would be bankrupt if we did 1,000 a day.

**abostonboy** · 05-05-2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by badboysfilms

Well it seems there are alot of bullshit artist but then it is possible for some maybe less than 1% of 1% that may do this but you are talking in the 100,000's of of users a day to one site.

IF BlakeMason had 100,000's of users to our site each day, i would retire next month.

Just 100,000 visitors would be $15k a day! 200,000 would be $30k a day! 300,000 would be $45k a day!

Pulling in 15k a day is not as hard as some may think. Ok. I need to keep my mouth shut.

**JamesXR** · 05-05-2008, 08:42 PM

So, visitors at blakemason monetize at $0.15 each. I suddenly feel really good about our conversions. Not that there aren't still some traffic sources whose conversions make me want to cry in frustration, but overall I feel really really good about our sex toy selling conversions now. Fantastic even.
If anyone needs to monetize their sex toy traffic, hit me up. Apparently it cashes out pretty well. Of course I won't make any promises, sales may vary with traffic quality, yada yada yada....

**abostonboy** · 05-05-2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by JamesXR

So, visitors at blakemason monetize at $0.15 each.

No idea really James. I was just looking at a 1:200 conversion on a $30 membership. Not taking into account any rebills. When you add in rebills and the higher price join options, that will go up dramatically. But, BlakeMason does convert affiliate traffic a little better than 1:200.

I guess my whole point was to make $1,000 a day, a paysite that charges $30 a month would have to make 33 sales. If the site converts at 1:200. That's only 6600 visitors. That's not even incuding any rebills or higher price join options. Getting 7,000 visitors to a paysite is not even remotely difficult.

I just don't buy the "it's bullshit that people make that money." We have affiliates making close to that a day.

Those that brag about how much they make are probably not making that amount of money. It's the quiet ones that don't say much that are making the bucks.

Though I think it would be easier to get 100,000 visitors to a paysite vs. a sex toy store.

**JamesXR** · 05-06-2008, 11:08 AM

You would be right. Sex toy stores probably do better because people click on the sex toy store link in the nav bar of the site they're on. They didn't think there was free stuff in that link. They thought that there was a store selling sex toys. Not everyone on a site is a potential sex toy customer, but it's good to serve those who are.
Of course, where the majority of your traffic comes from really does a lot to your conversions.
I will not talk smack about how much I earn. I can't even afford a blimp at this point. I'm stuck commuting to work in a car like some kind of chump. Some day I hope to rise out of poverty and be able to afford a blimp.