I really don’t get this AVS stuff, I can see it if you are just learning, or can not take Visa on your own. But I can crank out small members sites all day, and put them together into my own AVS looking system, charge them less and still make more. Not that this is the best idea in the world, but if I am going to do all the work I really have no need for them at all. Traffic is king, and if they can not offer that to me directly, then I might as well do it all on my own. At least I know I will “probably” not fuck myself over at the end of the day.