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    raymor
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    Quote Originally Posted by GPallan View Post
    wow...you've answered every questions that i had (and also the ones that i didn't know i had) regarding Strongbox. THANKS!!

    I’m buying my copy right now
    I'm glad I could be of help. I'll be looking for that order form.
    Just let us know if we can be of any further assistance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raymor View Post
    I'm glad I could be of help. I'll be looking for that order form.
    Just let us know if we can be of any further assistance.
    Raymor...i purchased a copy for my site www.dixter.com. But it's saying that it's going to take three days to set it up. I'm experiencing some password hacking/sharing as i'm writing this! Is there anyway so set it up right away? Please let me know would really appreciate it. Thanks

    Allan


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    Any decent man you ever get is gonna find out you're half dyke and RUN. gmr324's Avatar
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    Another Solution

    Allan,

    I represent a password protection system called
    Phantom Frog that is setting a new standard for
    password security. Our product uses Geo-IP tracking
    technology which will not even allow 2 people to
    share the same password let alone a whole trading
    forum with hundreds of leechers!

    Our High-Resolution Geo-IP Tracking offers the most
    accurate password abuse detection available anywhere.
    It tracks all visits to the members area of a site
    down to the city level. Furthermore, it takes
    latitudal and longitudal data into consideration.
    Therefore, Frog detects the fact that the same
    password was used in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the
    abuse instantly, allowing for the possibility of
    legitimate travel. That level of resolution is unique
    to Phantom Frog (yes Ray, it was worth mentioning).

    Our system is based upon the premise of providing
    24/7 uninterrupted access to the legitimate members
    while blocking out the leechers. This is accomplished
    automatically through our unique Automated Member
    Support (AMS) feature. AMS re-issues a new password
    directly to the affected members. This strategy breaks
    the cycle of password abuse and frees up the webmasters
    to do more important work.

    Please check out one of our latest press releases at:
    http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...334#post190334

    Our product is integrated with CCBill, NetBilling,
    Paycom, NATS, MPA3, Verotel, 2000Charge, SegPay, Jettis,
    and 365Billing. Phantom Frog has a simple FREE Trial
    Version which installs by adding one html tag or we
    can handle the installation completely for you for.
    In fact, we recommend that you leave ProxyPass or
    Pennywize activated during our Trial to witness
    first-hand all the abuse being missed by them!

    Most of customers were motivated to purchase our
    password protection only 3 days after installing the
    Free Trial! We also offer Automated Member Support,
    Brute Force Attack Protection, and Bandwidth Abuse
    Protection.

    Phantom Frog has stellar webmaster testimonials which
    are listed on our site. A high percentage of our clients
    are ex-ProxyPass/Pennywize clients. A casual scan of
    our webmaster testimonials page will reveal how unaware
    they were of the password abuse which was being allowed
    and overlooked by their current protection system.


    Please feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback.

    Visit out site to learn more: http://www.PhantomFrog.com/g

    Visit this link to try our FREE demo: http://phantomfrog.com/g?ft=1
    Thanks

    George

    Email: George@PhantomFrog.com
    ICQ: 226948212

    Next Generation Password Protection
    Don't Just Block Passwords, End the Cycle of Abuse!
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    Thanks, George. I'm going to give your free trial a try. Thanks for the quick solution

    Allan


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    Any decent man you ever get is gonna find out you're half dyke and RUN. gmr324's Avatar
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    Hi Allan,

    We appreciate you checking out Phantom Frog. You
    have my cell phone / ICQ / email information. Please feel
    free to contact me over the weekend and we'll get you
    lined up with the FREE Trial or the full production version
    to solve your immediate problem. I've notified the owner/
    developer Bill to be on the lookout for your Trial request.


    Many Thanks

    George@PhantomFrog.com
    ICQ: 226948212

    Next Generation Password Protection
    Don't Just Block Passwords, End the Cycle of Abuse!
    http://www.PhantomFrog.com/g
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    Any decent man you ever get is gonna find out you're half dyke and RUN. gmr324's Avatar
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    Is Strongbox the best (and only?) answer?
    Ray,

    I was responding to an open request for information
    about password protection systems. The operative phrase
    in Allan's request above is "(and only)" meaning are
    there other viable alternatives to Strongbox. Allan
    is entitled to receive meaningful information on all
    his options in a professional and timely manner. In
    fact, I'd be doing Allan a disservice by not responding.

    We are firm believers that webmasters should make
    well-informed decisions by visiting all the respective
    sites that deal with website security systems. In fact,
    we encourage webmasters to run a Free side-by-side
    comparison of Phantom Frog with their current system and
    let Frog sell itself. I don't see any other people
    making that open-ended offer to the webmaster community.

    I am not going to dignify your name-calling by responding
    to it because such primitive retort and demeanor speaks for
    itself. The webmaster community which represents our client
    base is passionate and exceedingly satisfied with our system.
    My only concern is the adjectives that our clients and
    prospective clients use to describe me and Frog. They
    represent the "true judges" here.

    Phantom Frog has been in business for over 4 years and will
    continue to grow and extend our reputation and market
    penetration as a leading-edge solution for password protection.
    As such, I will continue to post information and educate
    people about Frog every opportunity I get. Being aware of
    how innovative, reliable, and effective Frog is in password
    protection, it would be a "criminal act" for me not to spread
    the word!

    Next Generation Password Protection
    Don't Just Block Passwords, End the Cycle of Abuse!
    http://www.PhantomFrog.com/g
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    raymor
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    Allan
    is entitled to receive meaningful information on all
    his options in a professional and timely manner.
    George I have no problem with you posting. You've posted in every single thread
    where someone has mentioned Strongbox on any of at least a dozen boards and
    I've never had a problem with that. We have already discussed the issue many of
    those posts had with respect to knowingly misleading webmasters by making false
    statements about people you apparently perceive as "competitors", but I see you've
    edited your standard post to take of that, so that's great, post all you want.

    I may have misunderstood your intent, but to me the part where you made a point to
    call me out by my name struck me as you just trying to be a jerk. If I'm wrong about
    that I apologize. There's no need to add in extra comments to me that don't tell webmasters
    anything and are just said to be rude. In fact it has already cost you at least one
    sale that I know of. As you know, I used to speak highly of your software, calling
    Phantom Frog the only other good option besides Strongbox. I talked about working
    together and mentioned your company to webmasters who called me with some issue
    that they hoped Strongbox could solve. When there was a clear legal issue with your
    posts, I contacted you privately several times in an attempt to resolve it. In short, I
    was very nice to you because I don't see you as competition. I see two companies
    working toward the same goal of stopping theives and helping secure web sites.
    That's how I'd like things to continue to be, and it makes it hard for me to keep doing
    that if you post snide little comments that have nothing to do with helping webmasters,
    but are said just to try to pick a fight or be annoying.

    As I said, I'd like to continue to say nice things about your product and to mention
    you to webmasters for whom Strongbox may not be the best choice or who I frankly
    just don't have time to deal with. On the other hand, if you REALLY want to start posting
    snide little comments 10 times a day just trying to be a pain in the ass, please think
    about how that could turn out. I am familiar with your product. I'm VERY familiar
    with geo tracking. I'm familiar with the companies involved, with their license agreements,
    and with their registered trademarks. I sincerely hope you can read between the lines
    here. If you choose to piss people off just for the fun of it, they may eventually get
    tired of it and take five minutes to make a phone call that could create very big
    problems for your company, so let's not go there, OK?


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    George - sometimes our members travel and use their login in different locations - like l.a. and new york. one guys who is a member of our site has accessed our site from several countries as he travels for a living. and i myself have used both earthlink and att to access sites when i review them. also i review for some review sites who have me go in and do the review, then later the owner logs in to take the screencaps.

    i guess what i'm saying here is that sometimes allowing only one location per member can keep legitimate members from accessing what they paid for, and other times it can keep your site from being reviewed...

    how flexible is your program regarding being able to allow more than one ip per user?


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    Anticipating Member Travel

    Hi basschick,

    how flexible is your program regarding being
    able to allow more than one ip per user?
    Quite to the contrary, Phantom Frog anticipates and factors
    in travel by members. So, for example, let's say a trucker
    member signed into your site at 10 AM in Boston, signed out
    at 10:30 AM. He then drove his truck to NY City for 4 hours
    and signed in again at 2:30 PM.

    Frog tracks those visits and city locations and allows for
    possibility of human travel thereby making those accesses legit.
    If however, that second access at 2:30 PM came from LA,
    Frog will flag that as abuse since that can't be attributed to
    human travel time (unless you're George Jetson!).

    Now, in Frog's admin control panel, the webmaster has the
    ability to override/adjust settings so that abuse detections
    for a particular account can be ignored. This would enable
    you to allow more than one IP to be logged in simultaneously
    where your circumstance necessitates it. I would direct you
    to our sample screenshots which can be viewed here:

    http://phantomfrog.com/Life-Cycle-1.html (bottom right corner)

    Hopefully, this addresses your question.

    In our FREE Trial, the Geo-IP Tracking feature is demonstrated
    and abuse reports are generated. You can also look at all
    the admin screenshots as well. However, the buttons are
    disabled.

    Next Generation Password Protection
    Don't Just Block Passwords, End the Cycle of Abuse!
    http://www.PhantomFrog.com/g
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    I've always been openly gay. It would never occur to me to behave otherwise.
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    We were interested in Strongbox but were told it would not work on our servers so we went with BlackBox instead and have been pretty happy with the results.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gmr324 View Post
    Allan,
    That level of resolution is unique
    to Phantom Frog (yes Ray, it was worth mentioning).
    George, don't be an asshole. I've been very nice to you, even as you repeatedly
    commited criminal acts against us and the webmaster community at large.
    I haven't even responded to your BS by telling your three "dirty little secrets" about
    your "Geo-IP" and why it's "unique", which of course means you guys are the only
    ones crazy enough to rely on that mess. I think I'm still being very nice by keeping
    this stuff to myself, so don't push me by deliberating being an asshole.
    You know, I think, that if you really insist on continuing to try to piss me off all I'd
    need to do is send the URLs of a couple of these posts to "MM" and they'd
    file suit in federal court immediately, which would be the end of your company.
    Play nice man, I have.


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    raymor
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    Quote Originally Posted by GPallan View Post
    Raymor...i purchased a copy for my site www.dixter.com. But it's saying that it's going to take three days to set it up. I'm experiencing some password hacking/sharing as i'm writing this! Is there anyway so set it up right away? Please let me know would really appreciate it. Thanks

    Allan
    I think the message says it could be up to 2-3 days.
    For the last eight months or so, since Ali joined us, most installations are done
    the same day if they are ordered by 5 PM, or the next day otherwise.
    Anyway, it's already done on your site.


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