Quote Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip View Post
To be fair, in the commercial world, using US-based designers and a proper logo design process, he's right. I've seen at the low end $500-1000 for a logo, and if you're talking major national companies, I've seen $5000-25000 at the low end. It's not uncommon for logo projects to go through 15 revisions and cost $2000. But in the adult world, of course, nobody wants to pay more than $100.

I suppose on one level if you get a great logo and you're happy with it, $1,000 is fine, but where I have a problem is if the design work is being done by people in India or Phillipines or Ukraine where the designer is getting $25 and the middleman is getting $975, and I think a lot of these design companies are doing stuff like that which seems a little uncool to me. I don't know if adultdesign's designers are US based or offshore, but if they are offshore, the prices seem steep.
I don't know of a single company, with a staff of 10 people or more who has US designers. What you speak of could have been true 5 years ago, when such drastic price difference was possible (but you are way off on the numbers). It's a global economy, because of the internet and you have to remember that.
Reality is, with USD being so down, everyone's costs who has employees in Europe has gone up by 50%(and more in some cases) in the last year and half. You don't realize that if you live in US, as very little has changed, but if you are in Europe you are well aware of that (if you charge in dollars).
Our prices remained the same, with slight adjustments for inflation. So now we get paid in USD, our costs are way higher then they were a year ago.. yet we can't pass the increase to our consumers, as we'll be getting 100's of threads like this

So we cope with it by increasing our volume. At this point we have 25 full time in-house designers & flashers, and with some people bitching and moaning, we are doing more business then ever. People try us, and they keep coming back